“That (Brahman-GOD) is whole and complete. This (Creation-Universe) is whole and complete.

Only from that whole and complete Brahman-GOD This whole and complete creation is manifest.

Even after the whole creation is from that whole Brahman GOD

What still remains is also whole and complete”

- Isavasya Upanishath

Thathaji Maharaj’s Simple, Direct & Easy-to-Follow Teachings and Similar Divine Messages That Flowed Through Narayan Devotee

Thatha’s Message (TM): To be in a blissful state, be in constant remembrance of God. If you stray, you will lose Ananda.

Narayan Devotee: Wake up to God in you and Be Blessed and Blissed.

TM: Real meeting between Guru and disciple happens, only when the ego of disciple vanishes completely, merges with Guru and becomes one with him. Conversely, if such thing happens when we meet someone, you can think that you have met your Guru. All things in this scheme of creation are teaching us something. So first try to learn from all things like animals, trees, plants, etc.

(Cf.:Parallel: Lord Dattatreya’s direction to learn from 24 Gurus around us in Nature).

All sweets will taste same. So also all real genuine Gurus will look and behave in similar ways. Mind will not accept if it is otherwise; stay away in such a situation.

Even space is full of atoms but in a shattered state. That is why planes and rockets go through space. From the various types of atoms, atoms of same nature and quality join together to form an object. For instance, water particles join together to form water. Re-alignment of atoms leads to formation of different objects.  Wrong company / guru will render you address-less. And one who has not one-self walked through the path of Self- realization cannot guide you. It will be like a person who himself does not know about the forest guiding you to walk through the forest. You will never be able to get out of forest. A real Guru will make you forget yourself. Each and every cell of your body will be inspired and start feeling happy on seeing, meeting and being in the presence of your right and genuine Guru.

Narayan Devotee: Wrong Guru means a Padha-brashta.

TM: We all have come to this earth to learn. But we all have become Jagath Gurus ourselves! Except knowing our true self, we spend our time and energy to learn about all other extraneous things.

TM: All of us think that we have not seen God. But space is God. Is there anyone who has not seen God then? God is formless. But all forms are in Him like space that looks empty but accommodates everything. So, one has to realize this while life-force is in one’s body. Is it possible to realize this after death? If you live with remembrance of God, you are doing the right thing. The moment you move away from God, you are working against God. There are only two things: One is God. Another is God’s creation. There is no third thing. All five elements are helping this scheme of creation in their own way all the time. Planet earth allows emergence if everything and finally takes them back also. Because it is constantly helping, it is permanent. Like that all saints sacrifice a lot and at all costs without caring for their own needs also keep helping humanity. Such a person is a true saint. All of us should keep this in mind and keep helping humanity and other living beings in creation as much as possible. Whatever one appreciates using mere words is not  real appreciation or fame. Doing good to others and when they are benefited that is fame. Guru selects the disciple. Disciple accepts his Guru. So it is something special between them. Third person cannot step into it. Spiritual progress will happen step by step only. Otherwise it is high voltage current which we will not be able to face or absorb.

God does not care whether we praise or criticize Him. But He punishes through two things. One is poverty and another disease. So we have to be alert to introspect ourselves the moment we get any slight indication of any of these two. If we fail to do so, till such time we realize, intensity of suffering will keep increasing. (There may be more hidden meaning in what Thatha says)

Thatha says: Even if Yama comes he will not be afraid. First he would ask for his identity card! Next he will ask him which vehicle he has brought to take him? Then he would tell Yama to use buffalo for himself, but Thatha would go in a vimanam (plane) only to see God! (We use internet and mobile phone. But without using any such thing Thatha can do everything). “It is very simple to be wherever you want to be. Just go to space outside our planet. Wait for the place or country to come below you on its rotation. Jump inside. That is all!” Without any ticket, passport or visa, work is over for him. He uses such advanced technology! He is able to delink his athma so easily.

Narayan Devotee: I am happy that this BMI apparatus is being used by Thatha as an instrument. (BMI = Body-Mind-Intellect).

As explained by Thatha, God is one point and immeasurable, infinitesimally minute and at the same time infinitely biggest. Can be compressed and also expanded. God is space. God is  called ‘Kadavul’ in Tamil (meaning ‘Go inward’). It is normally explained as instruction to stay inward. But Thatha says that ‘Kadavul’ means that which has transcended everything. We are inside God. God is all. God is soonya or nothingness also. God can create and dissolve. Changeless or permanent is God. There are two basic principles of creation and about living beings created by God.

Thatha says: Entire scheme of creation is running on six things such as desire, jealousy, anger, ego, truthlessness (deception) and moha (i.e. desire for union with opposite sex; more about it later). When talking about desire, Thatha further says: All avathar purushas like Rama, Krishna, et al came and went. Could they do anything to remove or annihilate these six qualities? Even after their times, all these six things still exist. They will continue to exist as long as scheme of creation is there. Who does not have desire? Is God free from desire? Why did God start creation? Is it not desire of God to create, run and destroy? So advice to be desire-less is wrong. Desire was given to us for the purpose of desiring to unite with the creator, source. But we misuse it for all other purposes and running after this and that forgetting our real goal / purpose of existence. So at some point, after allowing us to run in different directions away from God, finally to put us back in a right track towards him, God gives such experience as disease or poverty so that there will be ‘U’ turn, we will start thinking about God.

Thatha and divine message say, “As long as Jiva is there, mind will also be there. It is impossible to kill mind which is like trying to kill our shadow.”

Thatha says frequently: ‘Summanondinondikeppe. Mudhalle sonnadhe sei. Pulambaradhe vidu’. Means ‘Do not keep on  digging for info. First do practice what has already been told and stop complaining.’

Thatha says: “Vigrahas and temples, churches, mosques, monasteries, synagogues, etc. were made just to remind us about God so that we do not forget God in the midst of our worldly activities. God is space. Space is God. You have to use your buddhi to perfect yourself. You should not use your buddhi to find fault with others. Your duty is not to correct others. Your duty is to correct yourself. Both Guru and disciple are within you. Your conscience will guide you. As long as you listen, you will not commit any mistake. If you ignore, you will commit mistakes. Then you will have to go to hell. If you listen to conscience, you can live like Bhuloka Swargavasi. In between you and creator, or between Jeevathma and Paramaathma, conscience plays an important role. It acts as witness in the day of final judgement.”

Thatha preaches only what he practices. Equal vision, staying away from publicity and advertisement, how to be useful to others, are lessons to learn from him. His Guru is the one conducting scheme of creation now.

Thatha says: “Only if we inhale, we can be alive. If not, can we be alive? That is called Jiva. Can anything work if no breath goes in and out? If breath is there, all organs work. If not, do they work? If we talk about God, then we need to have faith. We have to realize. If one is inert without realizing, how will one understand God? Externally if visible, only then we accept God. Lightning we see, then we accept light. Mind will not accept until it sees and realizes. We see a changing character as God. We should spread it and see God. We have idols as God. Does it do all activities like us? He has made us do all. God doesn’t  need all that. God is formless, but having all qualities. He is in us and everywhere too. No place without Him. If we do something beyond our capacity, that is God. Then we accept; if not, we don’t accept. How can one say, how a tree bears fruit, flowers bloom, etc? Can we tell? We are all making up this and that and telling that these things happen. But only with faith we believe in God. Name is given to each one for identifying and communication. For all to unite with God in different ways, we have many ways. Manthra chanting helps in creating the thought of uniting with God. If one likes God, God does not favour one more or vice versa. All have selfish motives. There is no form for wind or space. We only talk after feeling the wind. We all have come here as spectators. I have come like that and I am happy.

When you have duties, fulfill that, get detached and be happy. If you are not ready to leave, nobody is responsible for that. What does a hen do? Once chicken grows up, mother hen does not allow chicken to peck from her food. It allows baby to be independent. But we don’t. We want to take care of generations of our children. We should work like security guards only.

Thatha says, he knows how much work his Guru does and still he does not call himself God. But today so many call themselves God, which is utter madness. People also go behind them foolishly. If someone claims so, they need to have that Sadhana. Nothing can equal that Shakthi. Divine Shakthi can be equal only to Divine Shakthi. Divinity is common to all. God is realization. He is the Jiva. The form given to God is the (amaippu) destination, which runs it through form is the doing. If human beings want to know Divine, they do yagnam and say they got this, that, etc. Then people will believe. But he can’t show. It is  a way to show the path. If you hold on to it (the path), how can one get realization? Unless one realizes, one cannot accept anything. Divinity is common for all and will be there everywhere. No one can destroy it.

Thatha says: On the day of final judgement, no one can deny anything since everything – our thoughts, words and deeds are accurately recorded in space. We leave our thoughts when we die and pick up the same when we are born. For Jiva, actually there is no birth and death. Divinity is everywhere; inside us also. All of you can also do things like me. Only thing is that you do not try or take efforts.

Thatha says that vigraha aradhana (idol worship) started only to remind people about God since they get engrossed and entangled all the time in their worldly affairs. These rituals should help us only to remember God and ancestors. But divine forces warn us not to get stuck up with rituals; try to go beyond.

Thatha says: It is foolish to say that divinity is beyond comprehension of mind and intellect. If you cannot experience, you cannot talk about it. You should leave it. You should not talk about it. Since we keep on talking, do not accept which you cannot understand. Saints are those people blessed with deiva darshan. We can accept what Saints say. Without experience, eyes cannot see. That which is seen only can be talked about. If you see space, you are seeing God. Since everything is in space if you do not see space you cannot see God. Jiva cannot be seen. You can only feel it; so also divinity. Without Jiva, experience is not there. Jiva and experience are same. Experience is Jiva. If you do not believe your Jiva, how will you believe God? Experience is God. Experience is Jiva. Experience is not there means there is no Jiva. Dead ones cannot feel, see and react. 

To remain single pointed we are advised by Thatha not to react to all that is happening around us. The one point which we call yoga bindhu in Naaraayana Sthothram and immeasurable, is God. It is very minute and also the biggest and can be compressed or expanded. GOD IS SPACE. God is everything, and at the same time nothing. Only God can create and destroy. That which is changeless in the midst of changing things is God. There is nothing that is not changing including our own body and mind.

Thatha says that Jiva will be subjected to final judgement before God. We cannot deny anything at that time since all our actions and thoughts will be registered in space as witness. Why is that you see so many properties and suddenly finalize one? Why many girls and boys reject lot of proposals and suddenly say ‘yes’ to one? Have you ever thought about it? Soul goes to heaven or hell according to our account balance of punyam (meritorious acts) and papam (demerits). Hell-bound will start undergoing the sufferings immediately. Heaven-going will enjoy according to punya balance and will come down to earth again. Same for hell also.

Thatha says, to realize one’s atomness, one need to rise above one-self and help and serve others. One needs to be aware of one’s selfishness and base qualities like anger, jealousy, pride, etc, and harbour and nurture Divine qualities of love, care, empathy, appreciation, devotion, etc. Love yourself and love others also as you love yourself. Let love be the energy. Thatha also says that Nature is so mutually sharing and cooperating. God’s creation is wonderfully perfect. Humans and animals inhale oxygen and exhale carbon dioxide, whereas plants inhale carbon dioxide and exhale oxygen. That way both have to help  each other and serve each other; self-sustenance. Nature is self sustaining by its very nature.

Why was Krishna born in a prison? Thatha also discussed about auspicious and inauspicious days like ashtami, navami, amavasya, etc. Krishna was born on ashtami and Rama on navami. Pandavas worshipped on Amavasya day to start the war of Mahabharata, whereas Kauravas on chaturdasi day. So where is the sanctity of auspicious and inauspicious days? Any moment can be auspicious or inauspicious depending on you.

Thatha says making one into two is creativity. Every moment is a Divine moment. Creation is combination of two or more things. Why Krishna was born in prison? What is the symbolic meaning of jail? Birth is a kaaragraha vaasam of various relationships. As soul wants to enjoy freedom, body prevents it. We are imprisoned by bandham (bondages).

Thatha clarifies: At that time, Kamsa and his people starting from king to ordinary men were indulging in crimes, bad deeds, etc. All were ignorant. Jail represents darkness. Darkness means ignorance. To remove ignorance, birth of Krishna took place in jail. Just like light removes darkness. Krishna, the light, removed darkness of jail which is ignorance.

Thatha was kind enough to tell us about real purpose  of life which is to become such an atom which is imperishable and indestructible and will remain forever so that we can live forever as Nithya Jivas. For that we need to be happy all the time to such an extent that we can convert carbon dioxide that we exhale into oxygen so that no pollution will be there. We need to learn to take in air and when we exhale we should send out all unwanted bad qualities and habits inside us.  Thatha insists we should always share with others and remember sharing without being selfish. Love yourself to love others.

Thatha says: All living beings in planet earth are servants of God. Each living being starting from small bacteria to human being has to work. They have to do their work for which they have come. To supervise this, all species are governed by different divine forces. Gram Panchayath, State Government and Central Governments are replicas of what is there in scheme of creation. If work is not done, employees have to face actions like suspension, punishment, etc. Those who work properly are rewarded and enjoy pension after retirement.  So also purification is required for soul before being sent again in recycling process. Soul goes to enjoy merits and demerits to heaven and hell respectively after leaving the body. Once purification is done, it is recycled. This rotation keeps on happening again and again. Enjoying sukha is like enjoying heaven here itself. Going through sorrow is like hell here itself. Going through diseases means enjoying wrong doings. Going to hospital and getting hospitalized means like punishment for thieves being sent to prison. I asked why children suffer. Thatha said due to their own karmas of past lives and also due to mistakes of parents. So we share action of our deeds - if actions of parents are bad, the children suffer for no fault of theirs.

TM: Space is nothingness. That means when atoms are separated it is nothingness. When atoms combine then solid form or an object is created. Space creates everything. There are so many suns, moons and innumerable stars. Just like waves in the ocean, there are waves in the space. What is now discovered? Wherefrom and how dust particles come down to  settle on various things? Ever since this universe started all these are there. Integration and disintegration; that is all. Have you ever thought about what happens to various types of food that you eat inside your body? How disintegration happens? You do not think about it and you talk big things! You educated lot, nothing can be explained to you! Everything is rotating, including neutron and proton inside an atom. Without rotation, nothing can exist. When rotation happens, a force is getting created. How are trains and cars running? Is not gravitational force involved? How oil is coming from water and used as fuel? Whether body is buried or cremated, atoms get disintegrated. Even distance between a sun and moon can be measured. Is it a big deal? If you go up beyond a point in space where there is no gravitational pull, you can jump into the place wherever you want. It is so simple. Then Thatha asked how rain is happening? How water goes up and comes down as rain?

TM: Stop crying and start smiling. The name Hindu is derived from the word vindu from which only entire humanity is created! Hinduism is like a University. All other religions were born out from one base that is Hinduism. Some for satisfaction of ego went and started some new religion taking only few aspects. But the base is very huge and vast and covers everything! So go beyond caste, creed, religion and all such differences. Treat a man or woman as human being. Learn how to be human being free from all tendencies of other species of living beings. Be a spectator to be in blissful state. Stop complaining. We may belong to different religions by birth, adoption or by force; but we are religious only if we follow the Divine Universal dictum: ‘Honour your own freewill but not at the cost of others’ freewill’. Essence of all religions is this Universal Law of Peace, Love and Brotherhood. All the misery in the world is due to  not following this law. Let us not be blind agnostics or ignorant atheists but let us deeply understand our respective religions and those of others.

TM: We always expect certain things concerning us to happen in a certain way. When it does not happen, we feel miserable. Why have such expectations and then undergo disappointment? Day and night keep coming and going. Everything, including our own body, is changing. We keep longing for something that we do not have instead of feeling happy with what we have. Even in heaven, satisfaction is not there. Being fed up with changelessness, one starts looking for an opportunity to come to planet earth since it is full of changes. In one and the same planet somewhere it is night when somewhere else it is day; somewhere it is hot while somewhere else it rains. Such things are there only in planet earth. Then only life will be interesting. Otherwise we will get bored.

When I asked why we are like this, always wanting to have something that we do not have? Why do we keep complaining? Thatha said: ‘Basic principle of creation is that. Otherwise, creation cannot keep going. Even saints are not exceptions to this complaining nature’. Then I asked how? Thatha said: Saints also keep complaining being unable to bear the burden! Our own sense organs will be made to stand as witness for all that we did on final day of judgment. I asked, ‘How? Our bodies are cremated or buried right?’ Thatha asked: ‘So what? Where do they go? Are they not in planet earth? All five elements are servants to planet earth. Water is there inside fire. Fire is there inside water. You are just a particle sticking to earth. But you think that you can do this and that, without understanding anything about yourself. God who creates a human body inside a womb  from just a drop of vindu and egg, can’t He summon your sense organs? They will come and tell ‘He ordered us and we obeyed his instructions. Hands will say ‘He asked me to steal or kill. I did so’. Like this all your organs will say. Be careful!’

Thatha says: Actually, there is no such thing called Pithru dosham or Pei (devil), Pisasu (ghost) or evil spirits. If unsatisfied souls are going to take their family members to task just because rituals or last rights are not performed, then what will happen to scheme of creation and creator who created it? Everywhere, only spirits will be roaming around and no one can do anything. To prevent people from committing suicide driven by sudden impulses, such things were told that they may have to remain as evil spirit and all. Actually, there is no such thing. Unnecessarily, we should not waste our time and energy in analyzing all this. We have not come down for that purpose. We are not here to bring revolutions. Let us remain fearless about all these things and be ready to face anything that may come our way. Worry about your own conscience only. Lead your life honestly. All manthras, yanthras and thanthras will have effect only for a limited period. After that there will be nothing. Just like good force can be created so also it is possible to create evil force or bad energy / vibrations. That is all. There is no evil spirit of dead people roaming around in space.

Various rituals for good and bad are for the simple purpose of thanksgiving or remembrance of God and ancestors as the case may be, since we may otherwise forget about that also, being fully entangled and involved in our day-to-day lives and worldly affairs. As Thatha himself says in the end, let us take it if we want or else we are at liberty to leave it. Our minds are conditioned since our childhood with so many do’s and don’t’s.  We were taught to only listen. No freedom to question. But days have changed. Let us also change our conditioned mindset and come out of such things that may help us to lead our lives peacefully and blissfully like our Thatha!

Gnana Upadesam from Thatha. I asked a question: ‘Some people say God knows everything and He knows my requirement also. Then why should I ask God? Is it correct or not?’

Thatha said: Yes. God has created everything. But He is such a programmer and calculative that He has given everything as ration since we will not think of requirements of others before we finish and exhaust. We will not care for other living beings. Even though everything was created by Him, still we need permission from God to enjoy. That is why we need to ask God. When we ask God for more to share with others, he gets pleased. He pats us and gives us more and helps us to share with others. We are all like atoms sticking to God. Keeping entire creation inside Him, God is not affected and enjoying as silent spectator. If only we understand who we are, then we can understand our Creator. Creator is not expecting offering of flowers or ghee through yaga, yagnya, etc. Who are you to offer to whom and what? When He is the Creator of everything, how can you offer something to Him who has created everything? Even that strength to pick up flower from plant and offer to God is given by Him only. So try to understand well that it is just an expression of gratitude to offer flower and it helps you to remember the Creator in the midst of worldly activities. Try to please the Creator through constant remembrance. Share things and help others to please Him. If you can act in such a way to please God and become deserved to be loved by God, then nothing is equal to it. That is the goal. So you be like that. Help  others. Do not get lost in unwanted discussions. Then I cannot keep my search for you.

‘Gnana Upadesam’ means making a person understand the truth and experience the truth. I am here to remove little unwanted things in you. Be fearless and face things as they come. See how many filters God has put? Sense organs can only bring info from outside world or send info to outside world! But it is buddhi that decides. Next filter is your conscience. Your conscience is so close to you and keeps telling you what is right or wrong. Get guided by that and live happily. Do not worry about man-made customs, traditions, etc. They were meant to bring discipline in the initial stages. Do not get stuck up with it. Try to go beyond.

Thatha says: Knowingly or unknowingly we are all beggars all the time begging to God and praying to God. We should understand that we are just an atom in entire creation. Ego should be missing totally. It is only because of ego even Karna had to lose everything - including his punya - to a Brahmin; we know that Krishna came as a brahmin to take away Karna’s punya from him.

Thatha talks about five Karma Indriyas and five Gnana Indriyas which we use for interacting with external world as first filter. Next filter is Buddhi. It can analyze info and make decisions. Next filter is our conscience which will tell us what we are doing is correct or not. Thatha says that God has already given these filters. We have to use them properly. Thatha says that conscience is also a filter. It is like a balance. It is God. But one should not sit without doing anything in the name of conscience. One should not ignore conscience. But conscience will only prompt you. It will not reward or punish. Conscience  varies from individual to individual. We need to care for it. Then every living being will be able to function independently and live happily.

Thatha says: Dhikambara means space. Space is Paramathma. Everything is in space. Microcosm what is inside us is Andam. Macrocosm what is outside is Bahirandam. When atoms combine, an object or everything like planet earth etc. are created. Once some creation takes place, then Paramathma becomes Jeevathma, whether plant, tree, human or anything. Mosquito will search for mosquito only. It will not search for an ant. This is nature. Keeping sun light is available to planet earth. For planet earth keeping sun in eight angles or directions and ashtadhik balas to protect. If jeevathma is a point, entire space around that point is Para and Paramathma. From that point, 360 degrees can be seen. From that point, if you draw a line towards any particular degree, there will be no end. Such limitless is Para. So using this point, you can go anywhere and come back. First you must know who you are. It will take lot of time. After that only you can try to understand divinity, God or Para.

Thatha says: To understand who you are, either you should compress and become a point in space or expand to the extent of limitless space. Expansion to that level of space is difficult. So if you become a point, you can have 360-degree view and see everything around. Planet earth is located at a distance from the Sun and getting light from it. Based on this first four directions like East, West, North and South came into being. Then another four - South-east, South-west, North-east and North-west came into being. Ashtakonas or eight triangles. These are meant to come back to the point that is within you. Like this travel between Anda that is inside you and Bahiranda  which is outside you. When Jiva is inside a body, human, animal, bird, plant, tree or any living being, it is called as Jivathma . Otherwise all Jivas are in space which is Paramathma . That is why it is called Para . Knowledge about this is called Para Knowledge or Para Thathva (Principle). When everything is thus one and the same, which is to merge with what, when you are that only? That is why the Mahavakya: Thath Thvam Asi . You are that! You and me, we are one and the same. These words were repeatedly used by divine forces whenever I requested for blessings!

Thatha also says: You can also do that which I am doing. You are not taking efforts. Make each inhalation and exhalation as japa. Practice it for 24 hours continuously. Then it will be programmed inside you. Without any efforts it will go on forever. Then there is nothing that you cannot do. Same way, we were advised by Divine forces to be in Brahma Bhavana all the time, uninterruptedly. Highest vedanta in simple capsule form with tips to practice easily. How fortunate we are to get all this through Narayan Devotee from Divine forces and now through our Thatha, the great! Every word and every letter is pregnant with meaning. ‘Arise, awake and stop not till the goal is reached’ (Swamy Vivekananda). What beautiful words! Be a point with a 360-degree view. Can any upadesa be more direct and simpler than this? Simple, practical and outstanding. This way we can practice to think and look from several angles and meanings, as advised by our Thatha.

Thatha does not like lethargy and laziness. (If I lie down for a small break, he will ask me to get up!) Thatha radiates so much energy that even when we are sick, tired and exhausted our energy levels get boosted up. Not only he works tirelessly,  he also makes those who are around him to be like that. Each moment in his holy company, I enjoy fully that blissful state.

Lessons to be learnt from Thathaji Maharaj’s Sathcharitha.

Hard work, total faith in his Guruji, dedication, how he was handling ups and downs in personal life i.e. remaining unaffected in the midst of everything that is happening around.

Never loosing hope. Self-confidence. Perseverance and patience. Love. Excellent human relations. Respect and love to mother. Guruji came in search of him.

Should take life equally whether we are doing well or in turmoil. Guidance of Guruji changed his life. His approach and attitude was slowly undergoing total transformation. He was born in a family not very rich but his grandma was having extra ordinary powers to cure diseases. She was religious and lived for more than 180 years. Which is very difficult for us and in my view that is the difference between us and saints like Thatha. This transformation is important.

Not only Thatha was prepared for this service to humanity but his wife and children were also prepared mentally. But for their sacrifice, Thatha could not have made himself available to all of us and rest of the world now. Thanks to his Guruji who takes care of everything. Let us thank his Guruji and express our gratitude to him for giving us such a most valuable precious jewel. Not only Thatha. All 100 disciples have been trained by his Guruji like this.

What is to be learnt from the incident of visit to Mecca when staying locked inside a house? Omnipresentand omnipotent. With Grace of Guruji, we can achieve anything in life that we set our goals on. Nothing is impossible for the Guruji, and his  guidance will finally make one eternal. Guruji’s Grace is God’s Grace. His extraordinary powers, not only for himself to see and feel, but also for a lucky few to realize.

Desire, Anger, Jealousy, Ego, Asathyam 

(Falsehood)

Desire is force of attraction. Anger is for self-discipline. Jealousy is for inspiration. No one can stop desire. Lie - asathyam means imagination. All above mentioned five things are to keep things going in scheme of creation. So we need to use everything to understand our true nature to become THAT.. “I” should become “WE”.

Thatha used to tell always that we are all like small particles holding on to that Super-ultimate force called God. Power of Spirit is fearlessness and joy in doing things. From our childhood, we were discouraged to ask questions. We were asked to believe whatever we are told by elders blindly. We did that. But present and future generations may not follow. They need to be convinced. Habits die hard. So how to get rid of this habit of believing all that we hear as stories from our Sastras, Puranas and epics? Many are not true. Some may be true but exaggerated. So let the discussion happen about this. Since our divine forces have also advised us to follow the instructions of Chathursloki Bhagavatham, in which last stanza which speaks about Jignasu Thathvam advises us to analyze everything that we do, wherever we are, using our Buddhi.

Narayan Devotee: Each and every word of Thatha’s teachings is mind-boggling and eye-opener. Wondered several times how he is able to do it in such a simple way what we think or treat as something as impossible or not achievable. Not only he tries  to open up our eyes to Truth, he is also helping us patiently to overcome our shortcomings, encouraging and motivating saying that it is so simple to realize our true nature. We are so blessed to get guidance from such living examples in the form of Thatha whom we consider as easily approachable. Only way to express our gratitude is to follow his teachings and raise up to his expectations and live like Nithya Jivas as expressed by him every now and then. ‘I’ to ‘WE’ can transform any life from self- image to SELF, from ignorance to Truth. Embrace It, get swallowed and let ‘I’ emerge!

We have to be ever grateful to Thatha for imparting  such gems of practical spiritual wisdom free of any reciprocal consideration from us and in simple lucid manner. Our Thatha is great, genuine and down to earth person, unlike many self-styled sadhgurus, jagathgurus, sadh-jagathgurus, jagath- sadhgurus, paramahamsars, etc., all who have peopled the whole world aplenty. We were also warned by higher forces to be very careful and alert since many such pseudo swamijis will be coming to earth in more numbers. But it is most unfortunate to see how we are more trained to give importance to external appearances only. People do not respect or recognize genuine humble simple spiritual masters like our Thatha. They start misbehaving with him, that too in temples. But our Thatha wants to go unrecognized. He reacts only occasionally and most of the time remains undisturbed. When asked about it, he will say who is he to accept or reject? “I will reject them even before they reject me.” Such aloofness from society, remaining undisturbed under all situations, simplicity, being humble, not displaying anything about his siddhis or sadhana or saintly nature; like this we can go on telling. But these are the things that we need to learn from him. Fearlessness got omitted.

About our age-old customs, traditions, Sastras, Epics, Puranas, etc. They were written indifferent periods to suit that Yuga dharma to show some way / Margadarshan. That is all. One has to try to understand them with respect to present and future and analyze them scientifically and logically, before accepting them. That is what Thatha says. He says that simply do not worry about what others in the society will say and do something which your buddhi is not able to understand. Be bold enough to reject all such things applying your ability to discern and analyze. We should be open minded, willing to change our approach and attitude, get rid of our mental blocks to expedite our spiritual progress.

Either be ‘I’ or be ‘WE’. That simple. Once being ‘WE’ melts all mental blocks and attitudes like snow flakes melt under bright Sun. However, being ‘WE’ and thinking of ‘WE’ are different propositions.

Thatha says: The easy way to get rid of and / or escape from merry go round cycle of birth and death is as follows. Each one of us has been blessed with a balance to measure and see our own selves. Each one of us has our own personal requirements. To get these personal requirements, what is important is which method we use. We should use our own balance to find out whether we resorted to honest method or we used other methods  like cheating etc. If we have not done any such mistake, then we can escape from the merry go round cycle of birth and death easily. Then a question arises: Is there any such person? Thatha tells that that he is a living example. He had lived, is living and will be living like that. He has attained the highest to be attained and now he is sharing the same with others. Without total renunciation or wearing ochre robes, advising others to do things that which are not practiced by them are of no use. How much one is using God given opportunity to evolve and help others to evolve is most important.

Re-noun-ce-ment, that is going back to the core noun that you are, is important, not ochre robes. That’s what the Divine forces said, if you remember. Divine forces also said the same thing. Lots of similarities in teachings received from both Thatha and Divine forces. Just cannot express in words how this soul is enjoying bliss and immersed in Ananda, admiring, appreciating and trying to absorb into this system BMI. Each and every moment expressing gratitude for this wonderful opportunity given in this life. We are so fortunate to get his guidance the way mother feeds her child. We are getting the divine guidance.

Thatha has said one other thing. Even a mother feeds the child only when the child cries of hunger. Just like mother and child, we should cooperate with each other and live understanding our interdependence and inter-connection. Re-noun-ce-ment is understanding true ‘me’ and de-tachment is understanding true ‘my’. ‘I’ to ‘WE’ transformation happens on understanding true ‘me’ and true ‘my’. Mother just opens the window to let in Light, so that the child who is dead scared of the snake in front of it, see that it is just a rope to play with.

Narayan Devotee: (Giving example) There are two waves - Nanju (me) wave and Madhu (my wife) wave. You think both are separate and you fight with each other. Once you realize that both are the same water only, what will happen? Then you will know that truly the true ‘me’ and the true ‘my’ are one and same Consciousness only. Let Gnaneshwer open the window a little. Then, each and every dealing in the world becomes Rasaleela, play of Consciousness. Thatha’s teachings are invaluable, though freely available. Just like sunlight and air are invaluable, though available free. Unfortunately, ordinary, mundane lay people do not know and appreciate the real worth and value of whatever is available free, however invaluable it may be, in reality. This is a harsh truth of life.

He is talking about samipya bhakthi, one rung lower than sayujya. Helping other human beings is the best way to reach out to GOD. Beautiful explanation.

Thatha says: Principles of scheme of creation are very simple. Interdependence and interconnection. That is all. One is living by eating another thing. We live by taking help from few things. We need to be useful and help others. Strength and weakness. These two are common for all including Pancha Boothas or five elements. If one is attacked on his or her weakness, matter is finished. Such a small matter. That is all. You should not shy away from fighting against injustice or Adharma. Dharma and justice are two important things. Guru of Thatha had advised that you should not hesitate to destroy and fight against injustice even if it is God. One should respect another. When big fast moving vehicle is coming, is it not wise thing to move away from that path and avoid getting hit by it? Like that, if wave length is not matching quietly move away. We are not here to correct  others. It is a never ending job. Allow others and other things to remain as they are. You focus on your sadhana and merger.

Thatha tells that first we should love our own body. If we do not do that, we cannot love others. One who loves himself loves others. You will not think about harming yourself. Such thoughts will never come. So also, if you do not think of harming others then you can keep your mind free from such evil thoughts. Do not have jealousy. Take care of yourself. Do not keep complaining against others. This is the teaching of Thatha. Thatha is telling love yourself first. That is your duty / dharma. If you know how to love yourself, only then can you love others. This includes children, parents etc. Thatha asks “Thannai nesikka theriyadhavan pirarai eppadi nesikka mudiyum?”, to put in his own words. Meaning, if you do not know how to love your own self, how can you love others? If we love ourselves, our body should remain free from disease. Mind should be free from bad thoughts. We will not entertain any such thought that will harm others. That is loving others like you love your own self since we will never think of harming our own selves. This is what I understood by hearing Thatha.

Immediately Thatha said: ‘What big new thing I had told. I just shared the principles of creation. Whatever happens, fifty percent is due to our thoughts and remaining fifty percent is Nature’s contribution. Starting from the smallest to the largest, this rule is equally applicable to all living beings, all species, including five elements. That is how the earth is balanced. It is in Space without any support also’. Thatha says: It is normal tendency of people that they cannot tolerate to see someone living happily. If they see or hear something about their suffering they feel very happy internally but externally, lips will be saying  a few words of sympathy. This is the world. Looking at everything that is happening around us, he is confused. Whether to laugh or think? It is difficult to live in the midst of common people who behave wrongly due to lack of wisdom. But they call people with wisdom as mad. Who is really mad? Different types of madness prevailing in the world. Some claim they are God. There is big crowd around them. Some say that world is in their hand. Like this, various types of crowds. Seeing this, if someone runs away to forest or mountain top, people go there also to disturb. So Thatha says: He will increase the quality of persons coming to see him by one degree and decrease his quality by one degree and that is how he is managing. We all have qualities of earth since we are born here. Even earth reacts in its own way. God is considered as full of mercy. At the same time, God is also punishing by giving disease, poverty, etc. In spite of that, we do not want to learn our lessons. We talk as if we are the best in the world. Each one of us think that we only know everything. We keep finding fault with others. We keep complaining.

Poor Space! Space is the only one which is silently listening and accepting everything. So when I asked Thatha how he is managing, he said that he is managing as silent spectator. So his teaching to us also is the same. Inner Energy Field, individual Self, is the bridge between the manifested, the world of forms and un-manifested. Space, time, and silence are concepts that are superimposed on Divinity and thus veil it. When I read this to Thatha, he gave a big, nice, beautiful smile to Narayan Devotee’s comment.

Thatha says: ‘Unnai nee arindhal unakku oru kedudhalum illai.’ Means if you know who you are and what is your real nature, then everything will be known. Instead of doing it, you keep analyzing  and criticizing others. You scold God also. This reflects your own qualities inside only. If you are good, you will be able to see good in others. If your mind is filled with hatred, you will hate others. World that you see is only reflection of your own mind. Everything is in you only. Analyze yourself first. Correct yourself like what you expect from others. Even ants are so disciplined. They form a beautiful line and go. But human beings – they do not want to follow any discipline except fighting with each other. Love is common property to all. It is spread everywhere. But it is totally missing in human kind. People are running after so many things madly. Feel like laughing to see this madness. So to remain in the midst of such mad people, we also should behave like mad people. If we eat more than the requirement, even our body rejects it. Like that, no suggestion or advice should be given unless asked for. Divine forces also have advised same thing. Do not give unsolicited suggestions or advice.

Thatha says: Space is a thing. But at the same time thing-less thing. It accommodates everything. But looks empty. When its energy mingles with solids like earth, name and form are created. Solid and liquid have limitations. Solid cannot spread. Liquid has limitations to spread. But Space is everywhere. Wherefrom we came? Where do we go after death? If your answer is five elements, it is wrong, Thatha says. We came from Space. We go to Space after death. Because even five elements have limitations. Air cannot be seen. Water is inside earth, outside earth, on earth. Fire even though very small can become very big, but after sometime it will vanish. So Space is only one that is limitless and everlasting and never-ending and infinite. Earth has circumference. We are just a small form in it. If at all there is anything infinite in the universe, it is space only. All other things are finite. So Thatha says: Try to become and be that Space.

So also the universal consciousness which fills that infinite space throughout is also infinite.

Dhikambara, Dhikambara Sripadhavallabha Dhikambara! One who wears Direction or Space as cloth. How to be that space? Be an observer? That is all-pervading omniscient & omnipresent, and by virtue of that, omnipotent also. So finally we are directed to Lord Dattatreya! May be that is why Datta has been installed in the place where his Guru gave Darshan to Thatha!! We are already that--part of it like ghata aakaasha already. We have to transcend that limitation of ours of being confined as limited ghata aakaasha, and merge one with the universal aakaasha. That is all. Not so easy to be a silent observer. We need to get rid of our habit to get affected by all that is happening around us, not only what is happening to us, our own self. Give up ego and surrender totally. Doership and / or enjoyership should not be there. Neither excitement nor sorrow / disappointment. Respect freewill and free choice given by God to all. No faultfinding. No complaining. Accept everything that comes in our way happily. Not blaming our own selves as though we have committed lots of sins etc. We need to practice. That is Sadhana. According to Thatha and Divine forces, they do not give much importance to rituals. They say that we should be always helping for survival of fellow living beings just like we care for our own selves. That is why Thatha says: First care for maintaining your body disease free and your mind free from bad thoughts.

Brahman Sathya, jagat mithya. Jagat is not only objects around you, but also perceptions and cognitions around you. Thatha also said that all these Puranas, Epics and Sastras were written mainly for the purpose of showing some good path  to remain disciplined. That is all. ‘Adhaiye thooki pudichikittu nikkade!’ Do not cling on to what is said in that. Then you  will be living all the time in an imaginary world imagining punishments. Past is history. Future is mystery. Nothing to do with them. Be present to Present. Do not miss it. If you are careful in not committing any mistake knowingly, you can escape from punishment. Only mistakes committed knowingly will be subjected to punishment. All mistakes done unknowingly will be excused.

Monk-hood or resorting to sanyasa will not yield moksha. In scheme of creation, when we have enjoyed many things freely created by creator, we need to contribute in the form of a human being when leaving to keep it going. One who restrains from doing so is indebted to creator. Is there any one who has seen heaven and hell? Has he come back to earth after visiting them to tell others about them? Heaven and hell are all in our thoughts only. Here itself, we finish everything. We have come from Space. We go back to Space. It is so simple. Do not waste your time and energy in unnecessary research work. No need to go deeper or anywhere else, just dance as Presence now and here. Thatha’s advice is not to worry too much and / or waste our precious time and energy in research work. After hearing it, we need to obey his instructions to do so and dance to presence as suggested by Narayan Devotee. That is what Thatha also says. Let us enjoy everything since we are sent here as a tourist. Let us set aside all that we learnt through various books.  Let us focus only on teachings of Thatha which are same as that flowed through Narayan Devotee from Divine forces. Live in Presence. Let us try to transcend all these mental blocks. Then only we can live peacefully and blissfully.

As Paramahamsa Yogananda says: Habits die hard. So lot of efforts from our side and grace from Divinity, mostly in the  form of Guru or Thatha-like saintly personality will only help to get rid of them. If we get stuck up with rituals, superstitions, customs and traditions which will not stand tests of time, science, logic or our Buddhi , then we cannot progress spiritually. Will it matter for a drop of water in ocean to acquire another drop of water or travel from one place to another? Same way, are not our desires inconsequential? Desire and achieve for fun, just as a part of your eternal dance. But be aware that if itis fulfilled, you don’t gain anything and if not fulfilled, you don’t lose anything.

Thatha says: No one including a saint is free from five things such as desire, anger, jealousy, ego and asatyam or falsehood. Even God has desire. That is why He indulged in creation. Desire was given to desire for merger with source. Anger was given for self-discipline. Not to show on others. Jealousy is to get inspired to go in right path. Only desire one need to have and acquire is that it is not a foam but water. Falsehood or lie is imagination. If a thought is implemented and converted into action, then it is true. As long as it does not happen, it is just imagination and false. Ego was given. For “I” to become “WE”.

Thatha says: It is normal tendency of people that they cannot tolerate to see someone living happily. If they see or hear something about their suffering they feel very happy internally but externally, lips will be saying a few words of sympathy. This is the world. Looking at everything that is happening around us he is confused. Whether to laugh or think? It is difficult to live in the midst of common people who behave wrongly due to lack of wisdom. But they call people with wisdom as mad. Who is really mad? Different types of madness prevail in the world. Some claim they are God. There is big crowd around them. Some say that world is in their hand. There is a big crowd around  them. Like this various types of crowds. Seeing this, if someone runs away to forest or mountain top, people go there also to disturb him. So Thatha says he will increase the quality of persons coming to see him by one degree and decrease his own quality by one degree and that is how he is managing.

Thatha says: We all have qualities of earth since we are born here. Even earth reacts in its own way. God is considered as full of mercy. At the same time, God is also punishing by giving disease, poverty, etc. In spite of that, we do not want to learn our lessons. We are talking as if we are the best in the world. Each one of us thinks that we only know everything. We keep finding fault with others. We keep complaining. Poor Space. Space is the only one which is silently listening and accepting everything. When I asked Thatha how he manages, he said he manages as a silent spectator. So his teaching to us is also the same.

Greed is a negative emotion. I would put it as desire to long something of others like material, money etc. Sorrow is feeling of disappointment. Discontentment means a feeling of not having something, not happy. Desire leads to thought. Thought leads to action. So by asking to overcome desire and greed, we are asked to be action less and thoughtless. Is it practically possible? As Thatha says beautifully, God has created and is still creating because He too has desires.

Brahma, Vishnu, Eshwara thathva, THATHA said very beautifully: Brahma, the creator. Vishnu, lord of maintenance. Shiva, lord of destruction. This is the common notion in people. What Thatha says is that Brahma creates because of desire to create. He creates and enjoys looking at his creation. Same way, we humans should be creative and in joy. Desire to grow positively. Use your desire to create joy in your lives. Do not  desire to harm others, put others down. Thatha says that desire, anger, jealousy, ego five things were given to us for our Self- realization and not for using against others. We understand that Shiva destroys. Thatha says, only when something goes that something else has space for creativity. Thatha says that nothing goes. One gets converted into another. Forms and Names change. Destruction of negative energy, which is not necessary for the mother earth, Shiva destroys. Thatha says that creation is due to mixing or union of two things. Everything comes from Space and goes back to Space. Energy from Space enters into solid and one form is created. Such creations are monitored by Brahma. Vishnu takes care of Sustenance. Siva takes care of destruction of forms and names. These three are supported by their respective consorts in their jobs. This is governance of scheme of creation.

If you feel jealous of another person, utilize jealousy to create better than the other person but do not think to create harm to the other person. Thatha says that jealousy was given to us to get inspired for Self-Realization by seeing other advanced Sadaks. We should not do anything to harm other living beings mentally or physically. Just like we will not harm ourselves.  If we get jealous, don’t you think we are polluting our mind? Comparison leads to jealousy. Best thing is to follow teachings of Thatha to use all five things for our own evolution.

Desire: Desiring is a state of lack, state of incompleteness. That is why we desire to fill out this lack However, after fulfilling a desire, or desire grows more. Why? Because needs can be fulfilled, not lack. Lack is a belief. More you fulfill it, more it intensifies. So to take care of our desires we need to address this belief of lack. This happens with understanding. It is because of  misunderstanding of oneself only. We haven’t understood who we are. We assume that our self-image is truly is which is not true. True Self is not self-image but Consciousness, Witnessing Consciousness. Self is Whole, whereas self-image is a fragment. Self is Unlimited, whereas self-image is limited. Self is Infinite, whereas self-image is finite. Once you recognize that you are Infinite, Unlimited, and Whole; then what will you desire for? By fulfilling a desire, what are you going to gain? Or by failing to fulfil a desire, what are you going to lose? But as you imagine this finite BMI to be the self, you always feel inadequate and limited and hanker for other things. Thus entire life is wasted in acquiring things, and relations. This is as seen is just wasteful.

So one has to desire to recognize and realize the True Self by self-inquiry. Only human beings have intellect to engage in self-inquiry. That is why human life is very precious. So without losing a minute, one need to engage in Self enquiry and abidance. Just have only one desire in life - to find your True Self and Be That. That is what Thatha is saying: desire for only Divinity. That is what also higher Beings have advised us to engage in Vasana Laya, not VasanaKshaya. That means not reducing desire, but intensifying desire for Truth, Divinity, or Self with utmost attention.

According to Thatha, there are six enemies whom you can make your friends and use: kaama, krodha, lobha, moha, matha and mathsarya.

Desire / lust: Be desirous of True You within than being lusty of outward appearance of sense objects.

Anger: Be angry when you are not True You and any moment flip immediately.

Greed: Be greedy to be True You more and more moments.

Delusion: Understand Self-image (snake) is delusory and flip to True You, the Self(rope).

Pride: Be proud of only True You, the Real Gem than other delusory wealth.

Jealousy / Envy: Be envious of someone being True I and flip yourself as True You.

Like this we are expected to use God-given gifts like our body with ten indriyas, four anthahkaranas and everything for merging with God again. God has sent us like a tourist to see everything that he has created for us and enjoy and return to Him. But we get engrossed in all types of unwanted loukik things as most essential and run after them like a mad man, forgetting our duty / purpose which is Self-realization. As per teachings of Thatha and Divine forces, we are not here to judge others. We need to stop finding fault with others. When we do these two, then question of forgiving and forgetting faults of others will not arise. If someone calls himself or herself only as God, we should immediately remember that source and destination are one and the same for all of us. So how can there be any exception? When even Avathar Purushas had to leave the body, what to talk about others who claim themselves only as God? God is energy and everywhere, inside and outside everything.

Thatha says that desire means attraction between two things. One gets attracted towards another. That is desire. It is of many types. Thatha defines Kama as attraction between man and woman since reproduction is must to keep the creation going. Anger is to be used for correcting our own selves. Being strict in enforcing self-discipline and to avoid going in the wrong path. It is a weapon for protecting our own selves from committing mistakes.  Anger when used out of disappointment for achieving or getting something as we expected is Greed. All these were explanations as told by Thatha just now once again for our benefit.

Thatha says: Space is without boundaries since it is not an object. Object means boundaries will be there. Many particles or atoms in Space join together to form a star. If we become Space we can also be without boundaries. Thatha’s teaching for the day: He went on telling about all our immature and foolish acts smilingly. He was also telling that he is enjoying and wondering to see what all we are all doing out of ignorance. When I asked what is his advice, he said: In this Scheme of creation everything is programmed so well that even atom has to rotate and cannot escape. You cannot change anything. Things will go as programmed only. So you also rotate along with the rotation. Be a part of the movement. Enjoy and go. All tastes do not long for more than few seconds whether bitter or sweet. They change. One gets converted into another. Nothing is permanent. Everything undergoes change quickly and keeps on changing. If this earth stops rotation everything will come to a standstill. It cannot stop even for a fraction of a second. You need to change and get along well with others in society. Otherwise you will be branded as something unfit, and ignored or neglected. Whether you like or not you need to say yes and keep moving or watching as silent spectator. Enjoy all things as silent spectator. Do not be attached or detached.

Rishi means one who is neither attached nor detached. One who can make others work or control functioning of other things already in the creation. For the next one year all should live happily free from disease. He said that he is repaying all his debts and everyone should be happy and live peacefully. Give  and take accounts settled today for the next one year. About Thulabaram, Thatha said that symbolic meaning is unconditional love extended without any expectation in return.

It is not mano naasha but mano nigraha. One can’t kill the mind. But one can keep mind under one’s control instead of mind controlling as per its wish. Mind can be controlled by sedating it with sleep or meditation temporarily. However, it can be totally under leash by understanding what it is. Once you understand your mind, you understand your True Self. It is only mano / ahamkaara nigraha and not naasha which means total destruction / eradication / elimination, which is neither warranted nor possible altogether.

Thatha says: What or who is God? How planet earth is floating and rotating in Space without any support. That which is helping it to do it, is God. Just like breathing is important for all living beings, so also rotation is so important for all planets. Rotation is the base that helps for formation of all things. For everything in creation not only living beings but also for all other things like Stone, sand etc. including five elements union of two things required. One is Vindhu. When it unites with another that which is formed out of such combination is Hindu. So in this scheme of creation all are Hindu only, including the five elements. Vindhu is imperishable and indestructible. One gets converted into another. Hinduism is also indestructible. Without raw material, no finished goods can be there. So also Vindhu is essential. It was there, it is there and it will be there as long as this scheme of creation is there. The word Vindhuism only became Hinduism. All other religions may come and go. But as long as creation takes place through Vindhu, Hinduism will also exist. Vindhuism became Hinduism over a period of time.

Try  to understand the point of Thatha that all that is     in existence including lifeless objects like sand and stone which we normally call as Jada (movement-less) including five elements, are Hindu. Thatha says that it was told to him by his Guru. In each and everything there are male and female. By union of two only everything is created. All that is formed out of combination of two is Hindu. For formation of one, combination of two is required. Thatha’ s point is not to combine the word Hindu only with India or Indian only since all are Hindus only in this Scheme of creation. This has nothing to do with religion or culture or customs or traditions. About entire creation. Try to understand it. To make it clearer for us, Thatha asked us first to understand Vindhu. Then only, one can understand that all that has come from Vindhu is Hindu.

TM: One can worship God in many ways. But one should not stop with or get stuck up with external rituals alone. We need to do Self enquiry. Wherefrom we have come! How did we come?

Then only, we can understand Vindhu and Hindu. Male and female both forms are required to live together to keep the Scheme of creation going on. We should live happily and jointly since male or female cannot live alone. One is required for the other in this scheme of creation. All of us should live with lot of enthusiasm also.

Happiness, Peace, enthusiasm, etc should be there in our lives permanently. Male should appreciate female and female should appreciate male. Most of us joined together on 11-11-2009 celebrated as Narayan Day. That day, all ascended masters and light workers who came down to planet earth to work for Ascensionofourplanetearthasawhole, handedoverresponsibility  and went back to their respective places. Once again all eleven that is 29/11/2018. Hope that all of us remember  that we need to activate at least four strands of our DNA    on or before that date. This we had discussed  several  times. By doing Self enquiry. Since people are so busy nowadays, we were blessed with a simple Naaraayana Sthothram to recite, which is full of Self inquiry only. With understanding of word meaning if one recites this daily twice, Naaraayana will come and bless. This is assurance given to us by Divine Forces.

On no account can negative energy continue. Entire biology of earth will be totally different after that date when planet earth will be moving out of the belt in which it entered on 23-5-2012. Thatha was explaining attraction and creation as follows. These two are inseparable like God and a living being. You can always find two inseparable things - like beating and pain etc. Just like the force of earth that pulls down, nothing can be separated from earth, just like God and created being are inseparable, attraction and creation are inseparable. They need each other. Normally you people call three eyed God and talk about third eye etc. Male, female and God required for creation. For creation, two things are required to unite and third one or third eye required to ensure that creation takes place correctly and that is God. Creation is something that has no beginning or end. To keep the creation going, attraction was given so that male and female get attracted towards each other. Without this, it is impossible to continue the scheme of creation. It is our duty to contribute to this scheme of creation by producing another human being. There should be no shyness to speak about it since this is nature. In the scheme of creation, we all have come to play certain roles. Do not separate God from a created thing. Do not separate male and female. None is superior or inferior.

All have come through the womb of a mother. Father gives  vindhu. In effect all are Hindus only. It was something new for this soul to hear from Thatha that there exists male and female in all, including five elements. Wind is blowing because of Vindhu in it. Such things cannot be known by reading books or listening to lectures. Vindhu is life force. Without it, there is no life or action. Only when we are blessed to be in the company of great saintly personalities and ascended masters, after a long time when they are happy with our service and sadhana , they share such rare secrets with us, especially about the Scheme of creation and how it is programmed so well. Vindhu is in Sperm produced by male. Like a seed is essential for a plant to grow, Vindhu is essential for existence of all animate and inanimate things in creation. That is what Thatha says. I have heard that male stone is used for creating vigrahas of male forms. Female stone is required for creating female vigrahas of Goddesses. Sthapathis (sculptors) will be able to identify from the sound that emanates from the Stone about it. Respective stones are to be used. Otherwise, it will not stay. May break also. Such things can be known only from Saints who can see beyond our human limitations. But it was something new for me to hear from Thatha that male and female exists in all including sand, stone and five elements. No exception. Things go on happening without any break. That means male and female are present in our body as well. Like lord Shiva and Parvathy, Ardhanareeshwara .

Thatha also said about day and night which are inseparable. Actually, 49% male and 51% female means it is a female form. 49% female and 51% male means it is a male form. If you analyze the various qualities that we have, you will be able  to understand and appreciate this. Example: Being bold is considered as male quality. Being compassionate is considered to be female quality. If you work, you need rest. Like this there are always two. Like that we are blessed with both. Thatha says that we need to go with the wind and abide by the rules of Nature, since we are part and parcel of this scheme of creation. Space is required to see a solid. So also solid is dependent on space. For existence, Space is required.

If a man commits a sin, it is not shared by his kith and kin; if one realizes this fact, one would rightly act. Finding Source of prana (prananayama) and Source of mind(manonigraha) is greatest tribute to one’s Guru on this auspicious day expressing one’s utmost reverences. The greatest fortune in this world is to be a disciple, or a devotee. Those who have become a disciple or a devotee only know the value of it. A disciple in Sanskrit is called Antevasi. This is a magnificent word. Antevasi means one who dwells inside the Guru. It is not that just the master is in the heart of the devotee, the devotee also dwells in the heart of the master. Antevasi - means one who dwells inside the master. There is nothing other than the Guru. Everything around is Guru. You dwell inside the heart of the Guru all the time. The love of the master is surrounding you all the time. The one who realizes this is a disciple or a devotee. What else would you want, once you realize that you are surrounded by unconditional divine love all the time. No lack remains in life. It is all bliss. Antevasi - this is such a beautiful name!

Once when Narayan Devotee was staying with his son at Sahakarnagar (Bengaluru), I was watching Sound of Music movie on the computer with his son, and enjoying. In those days we were monitored very minutely by Divine forces. As soon as we  discuss or talk also, Divine comments used to come immediately. All our unshared thoughts were answered. As soon as the movie was over, I went to see Narayan Devotee with the joy of having watched a film. Immediately Narayan Devotee went into trance and Divine message started. First they questioned me what I was doing? I started shivering, feeling guilty of having wasted time in watching a film instead of doing Manthan as advised by Divine forces. So in a low voice, I answered that I was watching Sound of Music film. Then they asked me to tell the story.

Then they said that Sound of Silence movie will come! Which role would you like to play? I answered heroine role. They asked which role for Narayan Devotee? I said: Hero. They said: Please think it over. He deserves better role than that. They said: All actors and actresses will be given their respective scripts only. They may not know the script of others. But director will know the script of all. That is creation! So let us make this boy the Director! Then divine forces said that    I need to play the role of mother to many. Now Thatha is doing it. Out of seven children for heroine role in Sound of Music, so far Thatha has blessed with five, if taken alone. Along with spouse means double. Divya is fifth one. That is why asking Narayan Devotee to get ready with the script to start shooting the movie, Sound of Silence.

Inner meaning: Thatha has also confirmed that Narayan Devotee has come to rewrite Vedas and Sastras for the future generation as informed by divine forces. That is Sound of Silence film.

In the scheme of creation, creator is the director. All have come with our script to act. We are all actors in the stage of world! Once you jump out of stage and sit with the audience, then  no tension. Can be a silent spectator, or act as co-director and suggest changes to director. That is what is meant by asking us to be silent spectators in earlier discussions. Thatha will answer as follows: Entire scheme of creation is based on integration and disintegration of atoms and appearance of various forms and conversions from one form to another. All are programmed in the same way that all living beings will know when they are going to leave one form. Pain and so called sufferings are common for all types of living beings.

Creation revisited: Thatha was telling that just like we three were sitting and talking casually, so also he used to discuss with all the four saints like Bhagwan Ramana Maharishi, Seshadri Swamigal, Polur Vitoba Swamigal and Swami Gnananandagiri. Kanchi Maha Periyavar used to have big crowd around him. So Thatha used to meet him only occasionally. Thatha said that Narayan Devotee is THAT energy which expresses as sound and light. He told Gnana Oli. Ultimate realization of Self can only be experienced as sound or light. Sound and Light are different from Energy. Energy is neither audible nor visible or experienceble. Only expressions of energy are usable and experienceble as sound, light, feeling and movement.

Human beings speak incoherently and start looking around without being able to recognize, are all examples that they are unable to express what they have understood. When there is change in form definitely it will be painful. When anything goes beyond gravitational pull or any similar pull of any planet, then naturally, disintegration will take place and again atoms will mingle with respective types in space. Everything is Pancheegaranam from Pancha bootha Thathvam. When various atoms from these five elements combine in various frequencies or vibrations, various forms appear. Again they disintegrate to become atoms.

One wave dissolves to appear as another wave of different shapes at different locations of the ocean. Let go unreal waviness and be water, the Real. Have already said that you just reproduced what Thatha said. Take it in the right spirit instead of feeling bad. Thatha is guiding us to go in the direction of Self Inquiry which is most important when we are now blessed with a human body and mind. Next which body or form we do not know. So let us take his guidance and focus more on Self Realization as advised by Thatha. That which is formless, nameless, imperishable, indestructible, free from three types of gunas and beyond everything, particle, part and parcel of Parabrahman sticking like a dust particle somewhere in the space as invisible and inexplicable, beyond our mental comprehension: like this we can go on telling. But it is something to be experienced. The thread or life force connecting all types of living beings in this scheme of creation.

Thatha says that everything is inter-connected and interdependent in this Scheme of creation. We need to understand the basic rules of scheme of creation to experience Self. First we should stop finding fault with our own self and with others. Start loving ourselves and other living beings.

In every body there is a dream, but the dreamer is the same, the one Self, which reflects itself in each body as “I am”. Self is that which is witnessing or witness consciousness. Self is individual consciousness which has come from Cosmic consciousness.

Qn.: What is self? What is difference between Self and self?

Ans.: “I” represents ego. How can it be reflection of Self!

Qn.: What is consciousness? Is it Self?

Ans.: Consciousness is being the state in which you are aware of.

Qn.: Then what is awareness? Is it Self?

Ans.: Self is that which is inside you without getting involved with anything that body or mind or any anthahkarana does. Self is free from birth and death. Continues in all forms.

Qn.: Is Self only inside you?

Ans.: It is everywhere inside and outside of everything. That which is everywhere is inside us also. Self is all pervasive, omnipresent. But what is Self? Ray of light of Brahman. (Cf.: Last stanza of NS)

Mind & Maya

Today Thatha revealed one more secret about himself. He discussed about Siddhars. He said that they can do anything. Sudden integration to appear, disintegration to disappear, appear in any form etc., Then he said that many Siddhars live in Western Ghats. He has seen and taken Diksha or Upadesa from Sage Agasthya directly, for whom he has lot of respect and regard. Thatha has not only met Agasthya but also taken direct upadesam from him. Thatha says that Agasthya is his right hand.  Our ancestors had more scientific knowledge that they were invited to Egypt to teach them how to mummify a body and protect it under Pyramids. In one Nadi Josyam, they told me that I was right hand to a king in Egypt in one life and that I was a man in that life and an architect. I was asked by the king to interact with saints and rishis invited from India to Egypt for the purpose of learning the art of mummifying, and construction of Pyramids. This was also confirmed by two more. They said even now if I go, will be able to recollect that particular one constructed by me in that life.

Qn: What is difference and which is better or best? When there is no mind, how can there be boundary?

Narayan Devotee: Mind is like a stem cell. Mind is like a wave. But what is a stem cell? Some Essence with Possibility of being either heart cell, tongue cell, or any cell. What is a wave? It is essentially dance of water. So no mind is not an empty mind but one possibility of Mind with Infinite Possibilities. When there is no mind then talking about something connected to it, is it correct? Is not mind a bundle of thoughts only? In thoughtless state, where there is something called as mind to connect with infinite possibilities? Thoughts are content of mind, not mind. It appears to be a contradiction, but it is not. It is consciousness which throws light on mind. Mind is flow of thoughts. When there is no flow, only light of consciousness. There is no such thing called mind. Only consciousness. We misuse this Light for thoughts. Which are contents for so called mind. Be that Light. Use thought to erase thoughts. Jnanis have thoughts to the extent of necessity.

Mind is dance of Divinity. Thoughts, ideas, emotions, and actions are dance of Mind. While Divinity is still, it is called Shiva  or Consciousness. While dancing, it is called Shakthi or Mind or Maya. Consciousness while dancing, dreaming, creating is called Mind. The first pulsation of Divine Essence or Brahman or Paramathma is called Shakthi or Para Prakruti , or Maya (Universal Mind). Good question reply as above. Mind is boundary-les, is it not? That which is actually not there, we think it is there and going through feelings, thoughts, emotions and forgetting to dance andparticipate in Rasaleela. That is where Play of Maya steps in. When Pure consciousness loses its purity, then Aabhasa Chairanya starts dancing. Chaitanya. When we operate with our ego, we start limiting everything, creating boundaries etc.

What is Aabhasa Chaitanya?

Reflected consciousness is called as Aabhasa chaitanya.

What is reflected consciousness?

When pure light of consciousness falls in our chiththa which acts as screen, then depending upon the quality of chiththa the screen, the pure consciousness reflects shadows / pictures through Aabhasa chaitanya. Understand Aabhasa as reflection and chaitanya as consciousness

What is film? What is screen? How different these are from Light of Consciousness?

Osho’ s teaching is equally applicable to all types of relationships, not only for parenting. When we accept others as they are, stop interfering, start respecting God-given gifts to all, such as freedom and freewill, then we can all dance all the time and participate in Rasaleela.

Film and screen are the dream. Light of Consciousness is “Being True I”. If we reach such a state to reject everything as  dream, how nice it would be! Light of Consciousness is absolute, self-luminous and blissful reality.

Sharing a story as told by Yogananda: Once when a Rishi was doing penance, his wife went and cried about death of their only son. After a long time, when Rishi opened his eyes, he asked his wife: In dream lost seven sons. Now should I cry for them or should I cry for this only son who died?

Who is That who knows of shadow character and its world?

Self. You are That Self. Be very That and witness Shadow character and its dealings. You are That Self while dreaming or otherwise. You are water whether the wave is there or not. Tat Tvam Asi. Let Light of Consciousness witness its dance as film, as screen, and as reflected consciousness, and as drama in the screen, and as one in that drama dealing with other drama characters. Witness, how magnanimous Thatha is. He has to descend to dream drama stage to help dream characters crying over dream happenings and bringing them relief in side dream. Salutes to him for His hard and diligent work. Your equipment has to be healthy in order to recognize You and abide as You. Real surrender is aligning Your Life with Divine script. It is Blissful, not painful.

Agasthiyar & Lopamudhra

Thatha has seen Agasthiyar. He is very good and best among Rishis. He never has all these extra fittings. He looks like an ordinary person like us only but has a long hair and beard. Athman is timeless and beyond the temporal phenomenon called life, the mind-body is inert, and therefore is not capable of any phenomenon. So life, being an outcome of the illusory combination of the two is just a mirage. Life being a journey  of jiva, who is an illusory combination of the two ‘I’s a mirage. Lopamudhra, divine consort of Agasthiyar, is the one doing Devi Upasana through Kadividya. But what makes the snake not realize that it is a shaking and hissing rope? And what makes the frog not realize that it is a jumping and croaking bundle of the same rope? Lopamudhra is One who knows she is not a frog but dancing Divinity. And Agasthya is One who knows he is not a snake but again same Divinity dancing with different set of poses. What a Divine couple having Rasa Leela and teaching and guiding others of their fake drama. Pranams to this Divine Pair for their compassionate inspiration. And Pranams to Thatha for being in communication and company of such Divine Beings.

Thatha and Devotees in Thalaikaveri, Coorg